A heated exchange unfolded on Friday’s episode of Fox News’s “The Five,” as co-host Jessica Tarlov swiftly countered Jesse Watters’ effusive praise for President Donald Trump’s Middle East trip. Watters had lauded the trip as a “masterclass” in leadership, a sentiment that Tarlov immediately challenged by delivering pointed news about the nation’s financial standing.
The segment began with the show’s producers airing a clip of President Donald Trump touting his recent Middle East diplomatic efforts as a resounding success. Following the clip, Watters turned to Tarlov, provocatively stating, “All right, Jessica, master class. It’s not really in dispute. So my question to you is, how big of a master class was this?”
Tarlov’s response was direct and laced with biting sarcasm. “Not in dispute at all. Approval rating bump. That’s real life. I live and die by the polls,” she began, seemingly acknowledging a temporary positive shift. However, she quickly pivoted to a critical analysis, attributing any perceived success to Trump’s efforts to rectify issues he himself had initiated. “But that is directly related to him cleaning up his own tariffs mess,” she asserted, implying that any positive outcomes were merely a reversal of self-inflicted economic wounds.
Her critique intensified as she connected the administration’s policies to broader economic concerns, referencing a recent statement from a major retailer. “You know, you saw the CEO from Walmart, I presume, saying that the prices are going to go up. So we’ll wait for that.”

The most significant blow to Watters’ “masterclass” narrative came with Tarlov’s timely revelation: “While we were in the commercial break, Moody’s downgraded our credit for the first time in the agency’s history. So, all good news all around, master class.” This sardonic summary delivered a stark contrast to Watters’ celebratory tone, immediately shifting the focus from diplomatic achievements to pressing domestic economic concerns.
Moody’s announcement on Friday indeed marked a historic moment, as it was the first time the influential credit rating agency had ever lowered the U.S. credit rating. The downgrade saw the country’s rating drop from the prestigious AAA category to AA1. In its accompanying statement, Moody’s cited a confluence of critical factors for its decision, including persistent political instability, alarming budget deficits, and mounting concerns over the nation’s burgeoning national debt.
The agency’s detailed explanation underscored a fundamental lack of long-term fiscal responsibility from U.S. leadership. Moody’s explicitly stated: “Successive US administrations and Congress have failed to agree on measures to reverse the trend of large annual fiscal deficits and growing interest costs. We do not believe that material multi-year reductions in mandatory spending and deficits will result from current fiscal proposals under consideration. Over the next decade, we expect larger deficits as entitlement spending rises while government revenue remains broadly flat.”
Furthermore, Moody’s projected a continued deterioration of the nation’s fiscal health, warning that “persistent, large fiscal deficits will drive the government’s debt and interest burden higher. The US’ fiscal performance is likely to deteriorate relative to its own past and compared to other highly-rated sovereigns.” This grim outlook suggests that the U.S. is on a trajectory of worsening financial stability compared to both its historical performance and other economically strong nations.

Tarlov’s sharp retort served as a powerful reminder that while political figures may celebrate perceived successes, the long-term economic implications of policy decisions often tell a different story. Her ability to pivot from a discussion of foreign policy to a critical domestic economic development demonstrated her intent to offer a more grounded and nuanced perspective, directly challenging the uncritical praise offered by her co-host. The Moody’s downgrade provided undeniable statistical backing to her argument, creating a jarring juxtaposition with Watters’ earlier assertion of a “masterclass” performance.